Wednesday, June 24, 2020

Are we really hated for our freedom? And are anti-war people weak?

As for why the United States of America, & to a degree, the United Kingdom, France, etc, here’s an excerpt from the video called Chat With Ryan Dawson (starting at 1:00:20 in the original, but the video embedded in this answer is cropped) (this is from a live stream, so his wording isn’t refined but you’ll get the idea);
“I mean, you can say lunatic, or whatever, but he (Hitler) was not an idiot. We understand a lot more now about PTSD, & I think a lot of people from World War 1… Hitler was blinded… imagine people living in trenches for years like, years, dude, that’s your life… that had to have a huge psychological impact on everyone on both sides.” “Even if I can talk about ISIS, I mean I’m not pro ISIS. All my work is against these Wahabi fanatics & stuff. But I will put myself in the other person’s shoes”.

“Imagine you an an Iraqi kid, & someone comes up & like beats up your dad in front of you, which is so humiliating & emasculating &, you know, the rape, just the torture, Abu Ghrahib scene, you know, your soldiers, your men, stripped naked, humiliated, beaten.” “Fallujah, firebombs, all these civilians that are murdered, your leader killed, all that, & then sanctions, where you watched 800,00 children starve to death all throughout the 90’s. So you’re seeing kids with their ribs poking out. You’re seeing people die of starvation, & then they (the U.S. & NATO) come back, based completely on lies, & blow up your cities & put you back in the stone age, all of the things we did to Iraq, & you, say, are 11 years old, you grow up, & by the time you’re 18, how do you feel? Especially if you’re uneducated, on top of that. Are you going to be attracted to an Islamic militant group? You bet your ass.”

“The shit we do has predictable consequences. Of course there’s an ISIS. Why wouldn’t there be? Look at what you did. You beat, you murdered, you firebombed, hit ’em with chemical weapons. What the fuck you think they’re gonna do, shake your hand? And I can see, you know, stealing land from Germany after World War 1 with the Treaty of Versailles & how punishing it was, why you end up with Nazis.
That doesn’t justify Nazis, or ISIS or anything else, but for fuck’s sake, you have to look at it & see like ‘hey, were they just brainwashed & hate people for nothing, out of the blue?’, or did something happen first? And you just can’t say that, can you?”

“If you hadn’t have Gulf War 1, & you hadn’t had all the sanctions, & you hadn’t covertly supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria all through Assad’s father’s age,” “then we wouldn’t be where we are. If you didn’t kill Qaddafi & hand the country over to Al-Qaeda, there wouldn’t be all these African refugees in Europe. Like, they don’t understand cause & effect, because it’s this exceptionalism.”
“To hell with check your privilege, check your exceptionalism. American & European exceptionalism, they’re the ultimate dindu, ‘Oh, we didn’t do nothing wrong’, well like, yeah, you did, & now, Jonnys come home. The boomerang is on its way back, & this is what happens when you bomb & destabilize areas, like, you know, this is your own Frankenstein. You did this to yourself. This isn’t cultural genocide, this is cultural suicide, because your governments created this mess & your governments sustained this mess. That’s a nuanced view, & that does not at all promote any of these terrorist groups, migrants & thee raping & anything like that, it’s all terrible. It’s also predictable.” “We have to change our behavior & policies if we don’t want the backlash. I mean, that’s like simple stuff a three-year old understands. ‘ He hit me’. ‘Did you hit him first?’ ‘Yeah.’ ‘Well, maybe you shouldn’t have done that’. Simple.”

Ryan again makes virtually the same point in his video “911 and Iraq research and researchers” from 1:17:30 to 1:22:43.
As TheYankeeMarshal said in his video “My Thoughts on the Baltimore Riots”, “You treat someone like an animal long enough, & they’re gonna act like an animal”.
You can either read the following, which comes from Ron Paul’s speech “Imagine”, or listen to the video “Armed Chinese Troops in Texas!” & skip reading the speech;
“Imagine for a moment that somewhere in the middle of Texas there was a large foreign military base, say Chinese or Russian. Imagine that thousands of armed foreign troops were constantly patrolling American streets in military vehicles. Imagine they were here under the auspices of "keeping us safe" or "promoting democracy" or "protecting their strategic interests."

Imagine that they operated outside of US law, and that the Constitution did not apply to them. Imagine that every now and then they made mistakes or acted on bad information and accidentally killed or terrorized innocent Americans, including women and children, most of the time with little to no repercussions or consequences. Imagine that they set up checkpoints on our soil and routinely searched and ransacked entire neighborhoods of homes. Imagine if Americans were fearful of these foreign troops, and overwhelmingly thought America would be better off without their presence.

Imagine if some Americans were so angry about them being in Texas that they actually joined together to fight them off, in defense of our soil and sovereignty, because leadership in government refused or were unable to do so. Imagine that those Americans were labeled terrorists or insurgents for their defensive actions, and routinely killed, or captured and tortured by the foreign troops on our land. Imagine that the occupiers' attitude was that if they just killed enough Americans, the resistance would stop, but instead, for every American killed, ten more would take up arms against them, resulting in perpetual bloodshed. Imagine if most of the citizens of the foreign land also wanted these troops to return home. Imagine if they elected a leader who promised to bring them home and put an end to this horror.

Imagine if that leader changed his mind once he took office.

The reality is that our military presence on foreign soil is as offensive to the people that live there as armed Chinese troops would be if they were stationed in Texas. We would not stand for it here, but we have had a globe-straddling empire and a very intrusive foreign policy for decades that incites a lot of hatred and resentment towards us.

According to our own CIA, our meddling in the Middle East was the prime motivation for the horrific attacks on 9/11. But instead of re-evaluating our foreign policy, we have simply escalated it. We had a right to go after those responsible for 9/11, to be sure, but why do so many Americans feel as if we have a right to a military presence in some 160 countries when we wouldn't stand for even one foreign base on our soil, for any reason? These are not embassies, mind you, these are military installations. The new administration is not materially changing anything about this. Shuffling troops around and playing with semantics does not accomplish the goals of the American people, who simply want our men and women to come home. 50,000 troops left behind in Iraq is not conducive to peace any more than 50,000 Russian soldiers would be in the United States.

Shutting down military bases and ceasing to deal with other nations with threats and violence is not isolationism. It is the opposite. Opening ourselves up to friendship, honest trade and diplomacy is the foreign policy of peace and prosperity. It is the only foreign policy that will not bankrupt us in short order, as our current actions most definitely will. I share the disappointment of the American people in the foreign policy rhetoric coming from the administration. The sad thing is, our foreign policy WILL change eventually, as Rome's did, when all budgetary and monetary tricks to fund it are exhausted.”

I’ll explain in another point how foreign interventionism causes a lot of problems down the line.

I’ve also seen the assertion that anti-war people as being weak, which explains their anti-war views. 
Quickie: “Cowardly Lions”.

Listen to the video “Are We a Nation of Wimps?”.


Ron Paul has also said something that maybe the toughest guys are the ones who act with the most self-restraint. And remember that Ron Paul did serve in the military (in a war he did not even agree with), while the strong majority of you did not serve period.

I have three words for individuals who never served in the military but support conscription/the draft;


He also got much of his 2012 campaign contributions from members of the United States Military;

(Ron Paul Image Quotation #4)

(Guess Who Got The Highest Military Donations? (A Picture Worth A Thousand Words))

Whose the real tough guy now, eh?

As much as I have slammed the left for their weakness, meekness & other negative qualities, two of the biggest problems I have with the right is how macho they try to be, & even more so, lack of humility, along with unwillingness to swallow their pride, rather it be tribal or national.

Having an aggressive foreign policy does not even make us safer. The video “Foreign Policy Arrogance Undermines Our National Security” explains this:
This should’ve been point #4 in terms of importance, but it is important in understanding my next point.

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